Practitioner Training
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Kurt Iwanina
Amber Hawken
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Practice, integrate and walk with the ways of earth based wisdom.
What’s iSoma
in a nutshell?
A practitioner training that recognises you are a child of the Earth and instrument of Spirit.
This is an in-depth, experiential study designed for those who wish to learn how to guide Somatic healing and Meditation rooted in Earth's Wisdom.
If you’ve ever wondered where to begin or how to build a solid foundation for your practice, we bring together the wisdom of the soma body with the intelligence of Spirit as a healing modality.
We don’t use cookie-cutter approaches. Instead, we help you reconnect with your essence, allowing you to rediscover the Wisdom of the Earth and ignite the Fire of your Spirit. By purifying your emotional Waters and calming the Winds of your swirling mind, you will complete this journey with a profound sense of accomplishment, confidence, and trust in Life, Spirit, and your own capacity for wholeness
6 months
24 sessions
5 live (online) ceremonies
80 hours (min) training
Online & Experiential
October 1st 2024 - April 1st, 2025.
Somatic Healing
Meditation Training
Who is iSoma?
2025 - 2026 dates to be finalised.
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iSoma is an experiential passage, enriching how you live, create, and share your vision.
We gather for six months of purification by devotion. An amplifier of your gifts. Hands-on development for a higher mind and deep surrender to Your Crucible:
The test you choose to take, unearthing new depths and strengths.
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To remember, respond, repair, regenerate? To write new stories, carve new paths? Amend, heal and squeeze? Shed, unravel, unlearn and repattern? Walk with integrity, from micro life decisions to the macro life visions. Leave engrained ways behind. Witness the patterns of your life, from constriction and tension to care and expansion, for yourself, your hurts, your truths, your voice, your family, your dreams
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The shadow becomes exposed. To further understanding the web of our world, the beauty and the dross of our humanity, and the clarity of the necessity to walk your way, in integrity and alignment.
We need the law of three to ensure the sneaky sneak of ego can’t strangle the vision.
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from the grips of unconscious greed, gluttony, power and fear. A space to live in wholeness To create in harmony, To show up as the fullest expression with all your gifts on show. This is the space, a marvellous void where a great amount of skill, wisdom and humility are cultivated. A space to live in wholeness. To create in harmony, to show up as the fullest expression with all your gifts on show.
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will activate discernment, wisdom, joy, connection and the consciousness to give back to the earth and give back to spirit. We will tend to the physical, mental, emotional and spiritual body to bring clarity to transmission. Dissolve the fixer, unbinding the limiting ‘me’ complex and embrace the innate. Accessing centralised wisdom to activate the healing memory in those you serve. Those dedicated to this path will activate discernment, wisdom, joy, connection and the consciousness to give back to the earth and give back to spirit.Together we will deepen our roots, exploring the intergenerational power residing within - for it yearns to be a w a k e n e d.
Soma + Meditation + Earth based wisom
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Soma, from the Greek for ‘the living body known from within,’ is central to somatic experiencing, which links bodily sensations with emotional, and psychological healing. Far from being a modern invention, somatic healing is an ancient, profoundly holistic practice found in various cultures throughout history. It has long served as a means of connecting to the innate and the Spirit present in all things. This approach is deeply rooted in traditional healing practices and provides a safe, integratable modality that underpins many contemporary therapies. By focusing on sensations, movements, breath, and responses, somatic experiencing helps individuals reconnect with themselves, address disruptions in their sense of safety and wholeness caused by an overwhelm in the system of intensity that was too much or too soon (trauma) and fosters a comprehensive foundation for healing, wholness and well-being.
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Meditation is the gentle art of returning to yourself, deeply rooted in the most profound spiritual traditions. This sacred practice unfolds the journey of healing and growth from within, reflecting the timeless wisdom of diverse cultures. It helps peel away layers of noise, and distraction, allowing you to witness thoughts and emotions with a non-judgmental presence. Meditation creates a space where healing naturally occurs, old wounds unravel, and inner peace takes root. Drawing on foundational practices from Eastern philosophies and indigenous wisdom, meditation fosters a deep connection to your true nature. Techniques such as silent, breath, movement-based, dynamic, and sound lead meditations offer varied paths to explore inner landscapes and align with universal rhythms, providing clarity and self-discovery.
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Earth-based wisdom recognises our deep connection with the natural world and the spirit alive in all things, a core principle of animism. It sees nature—trees, rivers, rocks, and soil—as conscious and vital, acknowledging that our well-being is nourished by this interconnectedness. Integrating this wisdom into practices like meditation and somatic experiencing involves aligning with natural rhythms, such as grounding exercises, moon phases, and seasonal changes. Embracing this perspective enhances healing by honouring the living energy in nature and fostering a profound sense of unity and balance. This holistic approach deepens our connection to the Earth and enriches the healing process. It is a way of walking in this walk. Once where regeneration, healthy relationships, community, reciprocity and reverence are centred as vital and integral.
Hear Kurt explain the Trinity of Healing
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Through purification of our mental, physical, and emotional fields, we aim to tap into the wisdom of our spiritual body. Over six months of dedicated learning, practice, self-guidance, attentive listening and devotion, you will gradually and experientially evolve into the role of a teacher. You’ll acquire the skills to guide both yourself and others through essential processes of healing and integration.
Who are Kurt & Amber?
Supporting those ready to find their way
Kurt and Amber come together to marry the metaphysical with the practical, the spirit with the matter.
Creating a bridge between the two, iSōma is the culmination of 15+ years of study with 12 of those in close collaboration and dedication to holding environments of deep healing.
Together, they have held four to six day intensive retreats, surrounded by months of preparation and integration with over 650 students.
Acknowledging these experiences, alongside hundreds of single day immersions, have been as much a part of their journey to now, as they have been in supporting those ready to find their way.
“PARTICIPATING INTHE SHIFTING OF GLOBAL CONSCIOUSNESS IS NOT LIGHT WORK. IT’S NOT FOR THE FAINT HEARTED. AND… IT DOESN’T HAVE TO BE HEAVY EITHER.”
In Your Eyes
Jess Smith, Physiotherapist + Energy
“The magic weaved by Amber, Kurt and the group in which they are teaching goes beyond words, beyond the tangible. It’s an energetic attunement, often unseen but always felt to some capacity. Kurt and Amber are in full resonance with each other , the power and potency of their offerings from this place, is such a gift. iSoma will be nothing short of exceptional. I always feel at home when I’m in containers that are co- facilitated by Kurt and Amber. The environment always feels safe, nurturing and trusting. I feel free to be the most inquisitive, curious student and in return gifted nothing short of wisdom. No stone is left unturned. Intellect and acquired knowledge will only get you so far. iSoma will give you that AND the energetic attunement required to be of service in this world in a good way, the beauty way. I trust that Amber and Kurt will bring it all, and then some. They will challenge you beyond limitations, lovingly guide you, exceed your expectations. Trust the call..”
Tanya Mcarthur - Artist
Amber and Kurt’s unique and individual teaching styles perfectly complement each other to create the most supportive, welcoming and transformative experience I have ever had. Together they create an environment of safety and trust that allowed me to let down all my barriers, move beyond past wounds to a place of inner peace and self trust where I am able to hold myself and support others.
benny grover, men’s coach
It really taught me that presence and space holding are such an integral part of the healing journey for others and for myself. There's just so much truth in what these incredible humans are sharinI have learnt to trust myself. I've learnt to reconnect back to self, back to that inner knowing, that intuitive part of myself that I've been ignoring for such a long time. It's been incredible. I've had some incredible downloads from Kurt and Amber, and I'm so grateful for it all.
jo Michelle, medical professional
Amber and Kurt will hold you firmly yet gently. They will help you calm and center yourself, providing both strength and insight, while holding up a mirror for you to finally recognize the being right in front of you all along. Their love and wisdom are like the deepest and stillest lake imaginable, and as you dare to look into it, you will come to know...If you’re ready to step into this space, trust that Amber and Kurt will guide you into your wisdom. You can finally exhale, knowing that you are in hands you can trust.
Natasha, women’s coach and nurse
"The reverence and trust I felt in both Amber and Kurt as facilitators allowed me to truly see myself—embracing both the light and the dark. This experience has equipped me to hold that space for others, to see them fully in their own light and darkness."
Who we Are
Our community is a dedicated network of holistic healers, psychologists, chiropractors, community leaders, activists, death doulas, artists, health practitioners of traditional medicines and modalities, wisdom holders and medicine men and women. If you don’t feel you identify with any of these titles but you feel deep in your bones you are called to this work, we invite you to join us.
This certification program encapsulates a comprehensive experiential study methodology for incorporation into various modalities.
This is an education certificate program and not a licenser program
Program Overview
Attendance to all group calls and Transitional Initiations are not required but your presence is strongly encouraged wherever possible. If you need to be absent, we understand there is no one call time that can suit all time zones and life demands.
We have designed the course to be an experiential process and your depth of receiving will be a direct reflection of your participation. The group community will be an alive cohort, and any calls you need to watch on replay will be easily integrated with reflection and in our community chat.
(All times are on the Brisbane timezone AEST )
Duration: 6 Months online
Structure: 2 weeks to open 4 Modules, 4 Transitions, 2 Weeks to integrate
Ceremonies: One for each direction and stage of integration
Optional: In-person final integration purification ceremony.
Program Flow
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Foundation
Study
Reflection
Collaboration
Practice
Insight
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Connection
Community
Intuition
Growth
Flexibility
Acountability
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Micro Community
Practice
Exploration
Reflection
Trust
Depth
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Practitioner Experience
Integration
Embodiment
Collaboration
Experience
Refinement
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Dieta & Experiences
Cleansing
Sensitivity
Enrichment
Preparation
Expansion
Week 1 - Tue, Oct 1st, 9am - 12
Week 2 - Tue, Oct 8th, 9am-12
Week 3 - Mon Oct 14th, 5pm-8
Week 4 - Pod practice and integration.
Week 5 - Tue, Oct 29th, 9am-12
Week 6 - Pod practice and integration.
Week 7 - Fri 15th Nov, 9am - 12, Group Dynamic Meditation
Week 8 - Mon, Nov 18th, 5pm-8
Week 9 - Pod practice and integration.
Week 10 - Tue, Dec 3rd, 9am-12
Week 11 - Pod practice and integration.
Week 12 - Dec 13th, all night Fire Ceremony
Check in before break - Mon, Dec 16th, 5pm-8
Dates.
Week 13 - Tues, Jan 14th, 9am-12pm
Week 14 - Pod practice and integration.
Week 15 - Mon, Jan 27th, 5pm - 8pm
Week 16 - Pod practice and integration.
Week 17 - Friday 14th, 6H Group Heart Meditation
Week 18 - Tue, Feb 18th, 9am-12pm
Week 19 - Pod practice and integration.
Week 20 - Mon, March 3rd, 5pm-8pm
Week 21 - Pod practice and integration.
Week 22 - Tue, March 18th, 9am-12pm, Yarning Circle + Breathwork Journey
Week 23 - Mon, March 24th, 5pm - 8pm
Week 24 - Tue, April 1st, 9am-12pm
IN PERSON CLOSING CEREMONY, 15/04/25
We are offering an optional in person closing ceremony April 15th in the form of a Sacred Sweat Lodge as celebration of your passage back into the world with the wisdom and experience you have received. This will be held in the hinterlands of the East Coast of Australia, QLD.
There are 8 weeks throughout the training where you will be applying and practicing in your pods to train with the skills learned the week prior. We will break from a month of integration from Dec 17th to January 13th.
(All times are on the Brisbane timezone AEST )
Programme Breakdown
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Weeks 1-7, INTRO + THE SOUTH
Weeks 1-2: Journey Introduction
Calls: Weeks 1 and 2
(01/10/24, 9am -12pm & 08/10/24, 9am-12pm)
Topics: Beauty, Devotion, Healing, Medicine Wheel, Space HoldingWeeks 3-6: South / Earth (serpent)
Calls: Weeks 3 & 5
(14/10/24, 5pm - 8pm & 29/10/25, 9pm-12pm)
Topics: Dieta, Shedding, Ego, Fascia, Vitality, Soma, Wisdom, Embodiment, Earth RelationshipGuest Speaker: Bela
Week 7: Transitional Initiation
Solo Camping, 24-hour water fast
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Weeks 8-16, WeST + NORTH
Weeks 8-11 - West / Fire (Jaguar)
Calls: Weeks 8 & 10
(18/11/24, 5pm-8pm & 03/12, 9am-12pm)Topics: Fire Holding, Death, Heart Intelligence, Soul Recovery, Ritual Skills, Grief Transformation
Week 12 - Transitional Initiation
(13/12/24 - All night fire ceremony)
Online - Group Fire Keeper All-nighterWeeks 13-16 - North/ Water (Hummingbird)
Calls: Weeks 13 & 15
(14/01/25, 9am-12pm & 27/01/25, 5pm-7pm)Topics: Embodiment, Healing Relationships, Generosity, Intimacy, Joy, Heart Intelligence, Safety
Guest Speaker: Michael
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Weeks 17-21, EAST
Week 17 - Transitional Initiation
Online - 6-Hour Group Heart Meditation
(14/02/25)Weeks 18-21 - East/ Air (Eagle / Condor)
Calls: Weeks 18 & 20
(18/02/25. 9am-12pm, 03/03/25, 5pm-8pm)Topics: Spiritual Symbols, Universal Laws, Higher Self, Spiritual Insight, Leadership, Elder Rites
Week 21 - Transitional Initiation
Call - 90-minute immersive
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Week 22, THE 5TH DIRECTION
Week 22 - The Fifth Direction
(18/03/25, 9am-12pm)The whole universe is said to be created by the combination of four elements. A fifth element that controls and completes the four is accepted to be the spirit or quintessence.
Initially proposed by Aristotle, the fifth element appears in numerous religions and traditions. For instance when a tree is considered, the minerals it gets are accepted as the earth, the rain as water, the sun light as fire and the carbon dioxide it gives out as air.
But for the tree to be animate “alive”, the fifth element, “spirit” must also be present within.
The four elements can similarly be explained for humans. Blood is the fire, body is the earth, feelings are the water, our breath is the air and the one thing that completes all of this, the fifth. The spirit.
Transitional celebration: Group Yarn to share your story, finished with a deep closing Breathwork Journey.
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Weeks 23-24, Closing + Integration
Weeks 23-24 - Closing & Integration
Calls: Weeks 23 and 24
(24/03/25, 5pm-8pm & 01/04/25 9am-12pm)Topics: Beginning the Path, Blessings
Transitional Initiation -post-course submission
Finalisation of 8 weekly submissions of guided recordings. (5-10 minutes each)
Optional: Final Integration Lodge April 5th 2025. South-East Queensland
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Your Guides
Kurt Iwanina
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Kurt has been described as an ‘extraordinary channel’. He is a meditation teacher, medicine man, intuitive energy and sound healer, musician, spiritual mentor and guide upon the way..
As a seeker of truth, he has journeyed through extreme rites of passage, each one gifting a new depth of experience, resulting in new ways of seeing reality and interacting with this world and the spaces beyond.
For Kurt, the other world is just as tangible as the world we’re all experiencing. Kurt holds a significant level of embodied wisdom that’s not only his in this lifetime or this dimension. It is beyond.
He works from a space of absolute love, compassion and deep respect and honour for all life. Paying respect to the beauty of Mother Earth and the Great Spirit of all creation. Kurt is the epitome of reflecting and mirroring back all of your forgetfulness and all of your potential, a guiding force, returning you home to yourself.
Amber Hawken
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To the best of my ability, I facilitate deep remembering, guided by my great teachers, lived experiences, and Life's intelligence. I believe within our bodies lies a great wisdom that the ancients have spoken of since the beginning of time. Our work is to tend to the distortions within ourselves, allowing this wisdom to flow effortlessly.
I am known for throwing out frameworks and sensing what is alive in the moment. My teachers include Elders in psychology, indigenous wisdom carriers from the Q’eros people of the Andes, and Western holism path practitioners. I have facilitated deep healing through over 50 retreats, immersions, ceremonies, and hundreds of events.
My qualifications include Deep-State Repatterning Therapy, Mindfulness-Based Cognitive Behavioral Therapy, Somatic Trauma Therapy, Pranayama within ancient traditions, Sutras and Kriyas of Yoga, Functional, Therapeutic and Performance Breathwork, and Meditation. I have been serving in ceremony and healing with the elements for over 10 years, aligned with my teachers and Celtic lineage.
I revere our natural ability to self-heal and spiritually actualize. For over a decade, I have facilitated thousands through personal healing, spiritual reconnection, and grounding their creative potential. I co-create with my groups to sense, dissolve, and realign anything that needs to move, holding community with firm love.
My work is a culmination of my life as a woman, mother, partner, facilitator of sacred spaces, Retreat Leader, and seeker of Truth.
Ultimately, my evolutionary purpose is building community in service to modern Eldership.
Program Flow
iSoma invites you to come as you are. All of you. Humour, humility, the fullness of your humanity and in this process we will leave the ‘you’ you thought you knew behind as we immerse in practices to amplify energetic capacity and broaden the spectrum of expression.
Together, in community we walk the path of mastery by exposure to alchemy, moving beyond the intellect and into the space of somatic embodiment.
Allowing our DNA to alter at the altar, becoming one with the practices, before we move into cultivation of our own offerings. At the end of our training, a renewed energy and expression will arise from the fire of the initiate, with readiness and understanding this is part of a new cycle and the first of many renewals to come.
Discourse, Study and Learning (Practice and Embodiment)
Our foundational connection call where you will learn, philosophise and practice together. Made of interactions with our teachers, break-out rooms with your fellow iSōma community, process work, Q&A with real-time reflection and feedback.
Practitioner Experience
Throughout the program you will be given the opportunity to team up and work with each other and your offerings, even if simply for the development of these foundational skills. All levels of experience will benefit and becatered for.
Connection Community
A living breathing community to connect with one another and your guides. This channel will flow intuitively and may include the additions of sound healing, thread work, meditation and further teachings based on the progression of the group, Q&A. Whatever the group calls forth.
Dieta
For the first two modules you will be guided to undertake a cleansing of mental, emotional and physical bodies to prepare for the sensisity of and to Spirit. Committing to a lifestyle that enriches sensitivity, creativity and connection, physically and mentally opening you up to infinite possibility. Similar to how yoga asanas prepare the body for meditation.
Small Pod Practice
A micro community within the larger community for you to practice, deep dive and cross-pollinate perspectives about the experience. From week three onward there will be an option to connect outside of the calls for an initial deep yarn, sharing your life, journey and sliding door moments that make you, you and have brought you to this very moment. This deep exposure to truth cultivates a depth of trust and connection with your companions not possible without this kind of practice.
Wild Experiences
Alone, these micro rites of passage will be a time for you to face yourself, be with yourself, bring the teachings to life through application and immersion.
“The knowledge and reverence they have for this work, the love they pour into it- this is not just something they do; its something they live, breathe and embody.”
Nadia Karam, counsellor
Our Pattern Integrity (Values)
Authenticity
Living, breathing, move, integrate with integrity
Let it be dance
Incredibly Fun (play)
Courage to die
As individuals and a committed collective
Kairos
Letting the world unfold with us.
Shapeshifting
We must be malleable
Vitality
Leave more fulfilled and richer Courage to be an individual and manifestation
Always feed the Spirit
Gratitude & thanks to the primordial mother
Moving at the pace of trust
Be more like water
Jam with this?
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Core elements of practice
The Ecocycle of Personal & Spiritual Evolution
Breathing with Contraction
Shedding Attachment
Relational Harmony & Building Community
Healing the Wound of Expression, Connection & Receiving
Boundaries, Repair & Intimacy
Reciprocity and Regeneration
Cultivating Joy and Lightheartedness
Embracing Intimacy with Life
Purification and Dieta for Sensitivity
The Medicine Wheel
The Seven Directions
Developmental Attachment & Healing with Contact
Intention, Vibration & Energy
Wholism, Vitalism and Healing
Addressing the Shadow and Unconscious
Gross vs. Subtle Bodies
Spiritual Insights in Practical Life
Walking The Beauty Way
Embodying the Elements
Techniques for Transformation Support
Willpower & Sustaining the Journey
Cultivating Intuitive Intelligence
Development of Psychic Mind & Intuition
Humility as a Practice & a Path
Earth Based Medicine & Healing
Demonstrating Love and Devotion
Walking With the Ancient Ones
Depth and Integrity in Maturity of Offerings
Healing Soul Loss and Fragmentation
Rituals for Grief, Loss, Pain and Transformation
Polyvagal Theory & Creating Safety
Approaching Intense Experiences
Pleasure, Joy and Wholeness
Healing Power of Relationships
Practices of Generosity and Offering
investment & registration
The fee for this six month training and certificate is $5,500 if you pay in full (save $1,100), exc. fees.
The fee for the payment plans are $6,600 in the form of 3 x $2,200 or 6 x $1,100 exc. fees.
Upon payment you will receive a welcome pack from us with a summary of dates, links for calls and community access.
The week prior to starting, we will be in touch with steps on creating and accessing your private membership area.
A % of the fees we charge help provide financial aid to those who are less economically fortunate, ensuring our network stays balanced.
If you are financially well-off (for example, working in the Global Modern West, own property, expect an inheritance, or have investments) and are not comfortable with your fees supporting others, this program might not be for you.
Scholarships
Our commitment to Diversity Equity and Inclusion
Whether you identify as members of the LGBTQ+ , BIPOC, or
other marginalised communities globally, and regardless of your opinions, preferences, or life situation, you are welcome here.
We have created space for a scholarship for iSOMA, specifically designed to support individuals who may not otherwise have access to it. We believe that everyone deserves the opportunity to explore these topics and have a positive ripple into humanity. If this is you, you are welcome to apply for our scholarship program.
If you’d like to apply for a scholarship, please reach out to hello@amberhawken.com and we will send you an application form.
Please know that while we do not get everything right, we are constantly seeking to learn about the impact and changes we can make in this space
After we receive your application, you will receive an auto-confirmation, if you don't, please follow-up with us at: hello@isomameditation.com
Each application is reviewed and we'll typically respond within one week with either an invitation or decline. If after ten days you have not received a response (please first check your spam filter), feel free to email us at hello@isomameditation.com
Applications for this cohort of iSOMA close on September 30th 2024, and the first group call is October 1st, 2024 .
Frequently asked questions
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If you are present in the live group calls, there will be opportunities to come forward and work with Amber and Kurt directly during the session. Outside of that, no. This is a community based program.
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Yes. You gain lifetime access to all teaching material :)
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Here is our policy. We ask that you make your decision to commence this training from a sound state of mind and honour your decision.
50% of the course fee non-refundable.
If you choose a three or more part payment arrangement, you are still required to pay any remaining monies owed that make up the 50% non refundable fee. If you cancel prior to four weeks of the training commencing you will receive 50% of the course fee refunded. There are no refunds available for cancellations or withdrawals made within four weeks prior to the course commencement. Please carefully consider this policy and your commitment to the training before booking your spot. All sales are final & the training is non-transferable. No Exception -
This work is timeless, ageless and not something we 'own'. We believe that healing the Soma, and Mind (emotions, body, psychology) is the base from which humanity need to orientate at this time due to the density of our current awareness and what we still carry in these fields. So that's why we share the relevance to those at the beginning and also to those already immersed in another modality. Whatever you decide to do, be it simply use these as a way of working with others or further your work in other areas, it's an excellent and powerful ground from which to serve from.
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That's up to you. There will be so much value in being on the live calls, however we understand that no time can work for everyone so we have designed the intimacy of the group size (small) and the community channel to be supportive and a place of holding and connection. In saying this, even if you simply watch the replays and put into practice the teachings, this will change you deeply and there is much to receive.
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We've all felt we're not good enough at some point. And if you've pushed through this and taken on the challenge... where did you land? If you haven't pushed through before, this may be your opportunity to respond to that loop in your inner dialogue that validates and drives the behaviour of playing small. Playing small cultivates and feeds a sense of frustration, insecurity and jealousy which underneath is the energetic pattern or behaviour that keeps you in doubt. This is a self-perpetuating cycle and is one of the times where I would say 'lean in' to the discomfort to break this cycle. Meeting this challenge is fucking powerful!
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iSOMA offers optional pods that meet for an hour each, eight times throughout the program. While participation in these pods is not required, we highly recommend them. They provide valuable real-time practice, feedback, and connection. iSOMA emphasizes flexibility and tuning into your own needs rather than strict adherence to a set schedule. It’s about engaging your intuition and focusing on what you need during our time together.
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Yep, we will email your certificate of completion by April 30 2025.
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First off. Totally normal. In our opinion, the feeling of nerves indicates a decent level of respect for something welling up inside of us. Something that we will look back on with gratitude as the signal that took us to the next level.